Student Debt, New Careers and Degrees in The Sims 4 Discover University

Hello everyone. So, tomorrow is a livestream that will likely
reveal a lot of new features coming in Discover University. My other video about this is getting to be
a bit dated as there’s been a new blog and a new gameplay trailer released this week
as well as a couple tweets. I’ve been waiting around on more info to make
this more substantial, and that sort of paid off. First, we do know that you can be a good student
in high school and get a scholarship in the expansion, which will let you go to one of
the two schools while paying less or getting a discount. But, if you’re, say, not a good student but
want to go anyway, it has been further confirmed that student loans are an option. No, you won’t have to bribe anyone to get
into Britechester, but you can indeed get the life sucked out of you. If you work hard in high school, you won’t
have to take out loans, as you can get scholarships for a number of things, including athletic
scholarships and needs-based student aid. But, if you decide to outright finance your
Sim’s education, with student loans comes the need to repay them, so how could the game
punish us for not repaying them eh? Toward the end of the gameplay trailer you’ll
see throughout this video, the Sim says this: “I think they’re gonna take my stuff!” This seems to strongly indicate that the repo
man will be making a comeback in Discover University, and that’s a pretty cool reveal. A Simguru also tweeted something that further
confirms this is not a case of the community jumping the gun so to speak. The gameplay trailer, well, didn’t really
give us any look at the interfaces for grades, loans or anything and seemed more focused
on telling a story that kind of made me cringe inside, Sims: Had the worst roommate. Now we’re besties! *grunts* However, a new blog did come out
alongside this trailer that showed the degrees you can get. It looks like what Britechester and Foxbury
Institute can offer in terms of degrees does overlap, but they differ in the distinguished
degrees they offer. So, if you want a distinguished degree in
computer science or economics, you’d go to Foxbury. If you wanted a distinguished degree in language
and literature, fine art, or history you’d go to Britechester. So, it’s kind of cool if you feel like you
enjoy the Foxbury style more you can still get a degree in history there, or you can
learn about computers at Britechester. This is all right, there are family traditions
around certain schools and things like that, reasons you may want to stick with one over
the other, heck including just the look or the mascot. But I am guessing the distinguished degrees
are kind of like master’s degrees and may offer further benefit if your Sim seeks a
career in a field tied to those. We got a small look at the secret society
in the trailer, but only a brief one and still have no idea what they might offer to Sims. I’m afraid they might do rituals that give
you moodlets but, we’ll see. It’d be cool if once you graduate there’s
a secret handshake or a benefit to being in it. As I said in my news brief video, we know
there will be a robotics skill in this expansion, and that the robots are functional and at
least one model can come home to live with your Sims. Perhaps some kind of robot housekeeper, I’m
guessing. Now, for what some of you may consider to
be bad news, we know that classes are indeed rabbit holes. Now, to me, it doesn’t matter that much if
the classes would end up becoming a grind and get really repetitive, you know? I’m more interested in hearing what the careers
that come with this pack offer. See, there are three new careers – engineering,
education, and law. These are listed on the origin store page. I doubt that they’re anything like Get to
Work and I’m afraid these are also possibly rabbit holes. Maybe they at least got the rewards right
and made progression in these harder or added fun in some way. I’d say we will get clarification on that
Friday. I think it’s just common sense they’ll be
rabbit holes too but I’ll be happy to eat my words, it just seems like if there were
something more to these they’d probably market them to help sell the pack right? Not putting them up front is either a surprise
or in order to not get people over-hyped and then disappointed in another rabbit hole mechanic. So with that in mind, let’s just say, this
pack needs to make actually attending the university really fun in order to be successful,
because it may not have a big impact outside there except when it comes to bikes and the
new careers, and the simpler activities like juice pong and keg stands. There is a good deal this pack will have to
offer in the scholarships, financial aid system, actually attending and the time management,
the school clubs your Sims will be able to get into -debate, art and robotics clubs. It may make the teenager life stage a bit
more fun, pursuing goals and having a reason to in general give a damn about how they’re
doing. Child and teen life stages would’ve already
been hauled off by cps at this point given how neglected they are. I honestly hope there is a bit more to this
pack, that’s not just the fun activities like kicking a soccer ball and that there are reasons
to want to get into the drama or robotics clubs. We just don’t know enough yet. We don’t know much about dorms and the potential
of roommates yet, unless I’ve missed something. And I… I don’t think I have. Someone pointed out on twitter, TheYorkieLad,
that the areas on top in this shot are likely the dorms. So yeah, I’ll be back this weekend to discuss
everything learned in the long livestream – it’s 2 hours long actually and I’ll be condensing
that down for you as I did with others – it’ll be much more on point than this video was,
and I’ll keep you filled in so you can decide if Discover University is right for you. As long as the time management is actually
engaging I’ll probably enjoy it myself, since it’s not going to trash the gameplay and make
everything trivial the way Realm of Magic did, and it is focused more on gameplay than
island living was. So, I’m not always negative about these – go
look at my Moschino review to see what I’m saying. I just definitely have a different opinion
about the difficulty and what’s fun than the last few packs have given me. Anyway, support me on patreon if you like
my coverage of new content and sharing my work with others definitely helps if you can’t,
a lot of people still don’t know I have a channel. Thanks for watching and have a nice day.

100 thoughts on “Student Debt, New Careers and Degrees in The Sims 4 Discover University

  1. I dont have that much expectations on Discover University, the 3 last DLCs (Island, Manschino, & Magic) has been somewhat shallow, reuse, and lacking content. I think Maxis should remaster Sims 2 and/or 3 since the "beloved" company EA will remaster older games

  2. Carl do you think the rich sims will be given the choice to pay their tuition upfront???? That can add more of a gameplay for parents to save for their kids college.

  3. If classes are rabbit holes I wonder if we'll still have professors and so on… I'm a little sad about it and at the end of the day you could say that anything, including active careers, can get repetitive. But if there is plenty of gameplay I'll buy and probably have a lot of fun wth the pack. Otherwise I'll wait.
    I hope they hinted at the repo man vs that our sim's things will just magically disappear. We just don't know much about anything yet, but I'm looking forward to learn more.

  4. I definitely still look forward to your Sim’s videos although others are faster. 🙂 Hope you will continue to like The Sim’s.

  5. I’m looking forward to the livestream as I never played an expansion like this. Hopefully, Discover University will be good, as I am looking forward to it on PS4 next month.

  6. That’s exactly what I like about your channel – you give lots of information, especially on gameplay and what DLCs are actually adding. I remember being completely lost and confused, when I was trying to learn something about mermaids and this is how I found you. Your videos are always straight to the point, with both pros and cons, so everyone can make own opinion without spending lots of £££ first.

  7. Thank you for your honesty. I agree that alot of the packs leave much to be said and quickly maxed out even more so if you have a sim family since the first pack playing.

  8. Can u go back after graduating to do another degree is my question as in real life that’s something that happens.

  9. I super appreciate you making the long often silly live streams more compact and to the point. Love knowing you thoughts on the pros and cons, thanks for all you do.

  10. I saw a Psychology degree and was super excited because I thought it would mean you could go to therapy or be a therapist or something, but the fact that they added the degree without adding a job feels kind of dull, to me. Why add degrees you can do nothing with? I’m hoping more comes out of this, but I’m a little anxious.

  11. If they made the three new careers active, then we’d finally be getting a proper EP like we used to in TS2&3. TS4 EPs usually take the 4-5 full gameplay elements of a single TS3 EP and break each down into its own EP or GP. It feels like such a waste of my money :/

  12. Law will probably be a modified version of Business, Engineering has some potential as a Get to Work career, and I suspect that the Education career will be like one of the City Living careers. The Grim Reaper is probably related to the Secret Society like it was in the Sims 2.

  13. I'm gonna be honest. I rather have a neutral tutorial than to hear another simmer talking about weather they like the pack or not🤦 We all have our own way of playing and sometimes it even changes with time 🤷 so just give the information you got and move on. We can listen to about more than ten other YouTubers for their personal opinion. SMH 🙄 this was the only one channel that used to give actual facts rather than opinions and now it's gone

  14. I think Studentloans make this Game less international.
    In most of Europe the Costs are low (in Germany about 500$ a Year max). This makes the Sims very american/english.

  15. Thing I'm wondering is how does families work in this pack. Like, does your entire family have to move or you need to move out to use this one

  16. Can you still go to unviersity and still be at home? Cause many students go to college and live with their parents, or some online aspect be cool.

  17. For the distinguished degrees, I wonder if you need a regular degree first or if they just cost more and are longer. Also, when is the livestream?

  18. I'll buy it when they repair the bugs from PREVIOUSLY released packs. Can hardly wait to see how many bugs THIS one is released with.

  19. I believe the secret society have a greeting from a cartoon network show called steven universe, i really love that show. So I'm definitely getting this pack just for that! LOL

  20. To me this sounds like it won't be any better than the sims 3 version I'm going to skip this and just wait for the sims 5.

  21. me: oh i dunno i dont rly want to be spoiled about all the features of the game before the stream and i might want to discover some for myself and
    carl: makes an analysis video
    me: ohohoho new best boy video clickity click

  22. Just like Island Living I'll get this one when it goes on sale. I already went to university, it was lots of sleepless nights, professors who think they are god and belittle you for not knowing something after one class and fellow students who are just looking to 4/20 blaze it and have someone else do everything for them in group projects.

  23. I wonder if you can go back go get other degrees, and pretty much get all on a single Sim.
    I have one immortal Sim that I tend to do everything on. His focus is to max all skills, finish all Aspirations, and max all careers.
    Would suck if I have to pick 1 degree to get, and then be stuck with just that.
    ( I plan to re-start fresh when this DLC comes out, so I can go back to school-age )

  24. Also we need urinals and jockstraps for male sims (and briefs as well) and maybe some new hats for males too and even more hairstyles for men , i know there will be new hairs in this pack but we need more male hair for a more sexual orientation type of sims, more hotter, more cuter, more sexier male sims! LoL

  25. i want to be excited but with all the past boring or lackluster packs and such im scared it will flop or become an emotion based pack again so iv been trying to avoid thinking much about it at all…
    your game has issues if people are worried it will all be the same again and again because of how dull previous additions and functions are :/

  26. I'll stick with the Get To College mod that's if its updated. You can go alone with your SIM if you want. I made Brindleton Bay a college town. I might get this but I can see myself using the mod over the ep just like I use Road to Frame over Get Famous.

  27. Meanwhile, I'm finally grabbing all the cheaper sims 3 expansion and stuff packs. That I thought were to expensive to get in high school.

  28. I don't mind that classes are rabbit holes. I don't wanna grind through classes, but I would love for at least 2 of the new careers were like get to work or get famous

  29. Love the Sims cause it offers something so different then any other game.
    But it will be another shallow addition, no reason to think different.
    Unless this expansion took more time which I don't think it has cause the island expansion seems fairly recent from my recollection…or they hired a bigger team since then…which I doubt also.
    It EA, deadlines and consistent cash flow to please the stock holders is top priority.
    Doesn't matter though, I have Ad(h)d and the urge to purchase will get the better of me…Hope the stock holders appreciate the $$ I gave them toward the Yacht their on atm….

    I'm not bitter 🤨🤬

  30. I thought a thing of the sims 4 was getting rid of rabbit holes apart from most careers and a couple things as a trade off for removing open world to make it easier to play on low end computers. Why are they reintroducing them for classes just wondering?

  31. im glad console gets the pack a month later because it gives us time to see reviews on the pack and to see if we actually want it instead of people buying it for no reason then complaining

  32. i just wanna be able to build dorms where ever i want so i can use them for apartment buildings…. but i doubt ill be that lucky

  33. I was sooooo pissed they decided to market university as a "party at school" kinda thing but then just threw in the debt but didn't include interactive classes, like, WHAT?

  34. Can young adults go right out of CAS? It almost makes no sense to have teens be going to university while still being teens, I would think it would mean going through an age transition just like in Sims 2.

  35. I admit this is the pack I'm the least excited about. The more I know things about it, the more I feel it being an overpriced game pack. And, as a european user, the fact that the university expenses probably are so high to require loans drives me crazy. If I'll ever want to play the university path, I'll cheat my money and pretend the fees are low and you don't have to sell your soul to be able to educate yourself.
    Oh, well, bikes are usable in every world, it seems, so that's why the 20 euros overpricing (yes, sarcasm :P)

  36. Speaking of robots, does anyone know what happened to TS3 Into the Future? I can't find a copy anywhere, but I have no problem finding copies of all the others expansions.

  37. They better have proper dorms with multiple people living in them, Or sorority's and fraternities. Imagine paying money to get a sad excuse of a "dorm" with only one roommate and essentially being a miniature appartment.

  38. it seems to me that with sims 4 the developers have been so impressed with prior custom content that this whole 4th take on the game is like an empty canvas and a box of paints for the cc you develop or choose to play with. which is great for fashion designers and builders but less cool for game players…

  39. No law degree but you can become a lawyer? so law school? 🤪 I doubt it but I wonder how it will be incorporated. I’m a lawyer myself and I was disappointed that the sim with the doctorate degree gown in the trailer was wearing an undergraduate degree cap. I worked hard for that silly cap and want my simself to wear it too.

  40. It's sounding like once again they are doing this around young adults. I hope I'm wrong because I want to send an elder to University.

  41. Or they don't have enough content to show related to the Jobs.
    ANd that's why they only showed the silly, "Fun parties" and ROleplaying elements of the pack instead in most advertisements, and Showcases.
    This looks like it's "Pack-contained" Just like all the others.
    You COUUULD- Probably use some things in different areas, But, the overlap won't Apply to anything "Scripted in"

  42. Again, good background music. Appreciate the videos.

    *Also, I think the robot butler was a thing in the original Sims?

  43. Tbh, I’m sort of glad that the classes are rabbit holes. It would make the game a lot more boring if you had to wait during the entire class.

  44. Thank you EA for keep churning out half baked expansions. I have saved at least 100 bucks so far this year. So glad I didn’t fall for the hype and buy the expansions on release date. Sims 4 university sounds like it’s gonna flop as well. Looks like I’m gonna buy myself something really nice for Xmas with the money I saved up.

  45. Honestly, I am super bummed that going to class isn't like Get to Work… they make it look like the classes were based on the preview… does that NOT look like they are in a class? Let down. 🙁

  46. Sounds like this pack is getting to close to RL for me. I must have :-). Can't wait for any/all the info you can give. I have the game ordered BUT won't get to play it till after the 15th (Will be relying on you to give me the ins and outs of this pack)

  47. The more I think about it, the more I remember it's so easy to make big simoleons rather quickly in Sims 4. Student loans for some sims would be paid off immediately (or even sims can just outright pay for college). It's realistic to have something to invest in but to me, it's not really a challenge or something to keep in mind. I do think the challenge is really going to come in with managing your time between fun activities and studying. Maybe similar to the mechanics of Sims 2? Sims 3's grade steadily decreased if you didn't study all the time. Which is fine with me but in practice grades deplete too quickly. My sim was cheated out of her 4.0 after completing finals because of the system.

  48. Ok I’m really excited about this pack,been wanting it for ever,but Im a lil disappointed the classes are rabbit holes 😒🤷🏼‍♀️

  49. It's a very American-centric expansion because student debt just isn't a thing in so many other countries. At least not to the extreme that the US education system goes to.

  50. To be honest I'm probably not going to get this one. It looks like Island living, beautiful but not a lot of game play. I thought we were done with rabbit holes? And I can't believe that you can't design your dorm? Also you can't put a stove on a housing lot? That's really random!

  51. ngl when you think about it the pack is legit pointless. If you dont go to uni nothing will actually happen. You can still get any job you want. The pack is disappointing and a waste of money. Will i still buy it? Probably.

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