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EDITOR OF “THE WASHINGTON POST” AND POLITICAL ANALYST, EUGENE AND POLITICAL ANALYST, EUGENE ROBINSON. ROBINSON. AND NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT HEIDI AND NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT HEIDI PRZYBYLA. PRZYBYLA. THERE’S A SHAKEUP AFTER LAST THERE’S A SHAKEUP AFTER LAST WEEK’S DEBATES. WEEK’S DEBATES. SENATORS ELIZABETH WARREN AND SENATORS ELIZABETH WARREN AND KAMALA HARRIS MADE SIGNIFICANT KAMALA HARRIS MADE SIGNIFICANT GAINS AT THE EXPENSE OF FORMER GAINS AT THE EXPENSE OF FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. BIDEN’S LEAD FELL IN THIS POLL BIDEN’S LEAD FELL IN THIS POLL TEN POINTS, DOWN TO 22% FROM A TEN POINTS, DOWN TO 22% FROM A MONTH AGO. MONTH AGO. NOW UP JUST FIVE POINTS OVER NOW UP JUST FIVE POINTS OVER SENATOR HARRIS WHO GAINED NINE SENATOR HARRIS WHO GAINED NINE POINTS UP TO 17%. POINTS UP TO 17%. ELIZABETH WARREN NOW SITS IN ELIZABETH WARREN NOW SITS IN THIRD PLACE AT 15% UP EIGHT. THIRD PLACE AT 15% UP EIGHT. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS DROPPED SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS DROPPED FOUR POINTS TO 14%. FOUR POINTS TO 14%. MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG ROUNDS OUT MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG ROUNDS OUT THE TOP FIVE IN THE POLL AT 4%. THE TOP FIVE IN THE POLL AT 4%. STEVE KORNACKI, A LOT OF PEOPLE STEVE KORNACKI, A LOT OF PEOPLE AFTER THEY WATCHED KAMALA HARRIS AFTER THEY WATCHED KAMALA HARRIS DO BATTLE WITH JOE BIDEN DO BATTLE WITH JOE BIDEN EXPECTED THERE MIGHT BE SOME EXPECTED THERE MIGHT BE SOME MOVEMENT. MOVEMENT. THIS WAS THE FIRST LOOK WE GOT THIS WAS THE FIRST LOOK WE GOT AT THE ENTIRE GROUP TOGETHER. AT THE ENTIRE GROUP TOGETHER. BUT THAT’S A BIG JUMP. BUT THAT’S A BIG JUMP.>>THAT’S VERY BIG.>>THAT’S VERY BIG. I MEAN, FIVE POINTS, THAT POLL I MEAN, FIVE POINTS, THAT POLL HAS IT FIVE POINTS WHEN YOU HAS IT FIVE POINTS WHEN YOU THINK OF ALL THE ADVANTAGES THAT THINK OF ALL THE ADVANTAGES THAT JOE BIDEN HAD SUPPOSEDLY COMING JOE BIDEN HAD SUPPOSEDLY COMING INTO THE RACE, TO BE SITTING IN INTO THE RACE, TO BE SITTING IN THIS POLL — LET’S SEE HOW THIS THIS POLL — LET’S SEE HOW THIS ONE LOOKS IN COMPARISON TO THEM. ONE LOOKS IN COMPARISON TO THEM. BUT TO BE UP JUST FIVE POINTS BUT TO BE UP JUST FIVE POINTS AND IT IS AT 22% WHEN YOU’RE THE AND IT IS AT 22% WHEN YOU’RE THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND YOU CAME IN UNITED STATES AND YOU CAME IN WITH ALL OF THESE PROMISES OF WITH ALL OF THESE PROMISES OF ELECTABILITY, UNIVERSAL NAME ELECTABILITY, UNIVERSAL NAME RECOGNITION, ALL OF THESE THINGS RECOGNITION, ALL OF THESE THINGS I THINK THAT SPEAKS POTENTIALLY I THINK THAT SPEAKS POTENTIALLY TO SERIOUSLY BAD DEBATE TO SERIOUSLY BAD DEBATE PERFORMANCE. PERFORMANCE. IN A DEBATE PERFORMANCE THAT IN A DEBATE PERFORMANCE THAT RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HIS CORE SUPPOSED TO BE HIS CORE STRENGTH. STRENGTH. AND THAT IS ELECTABILITY. AND THAT IS ELECTABILITY. AND THERE WAS A SEPARATE POLL AND THERE WAS A SEPARATE POLL THAT CAME OUT YESTERDAY THAT HAS THAT CAME OUT YESTERDAY THAT HAS BEEN ASKING DEMOCRATS A VERY BEEN ASKING DEMOCRATS A VERY BASIC QUESTION. BASIC QUESTION. DIDN’T ASK THE HORSE RACE DIDN’T ASK THE HORSE RACE QUESTION, BUT HAS BEEN ASKING QUESTION, BUT HAS BEEN ASKING THEM A BASIC QUESTION. THEM A BASIC QUESTION. DO YOU THINK CANDIDATE “X” IS DO YOU THINK CANDIDATE “X” IS CAPABLE OF BEATING DONALD TRUMP? CAPABLE OF BEATING DONALD TRUMP? AND JOE BIDEN AFTER THAT DEBATE AND JOE BIDEN AFTER THAT DEBATE HIS NUMBER DROPPED 13 POINTS AND HIS NUMBER DROPPED 13 POINTS AND THE ONLY OTHER CANDIDATE TO THE ONLY OTHER CANDIDATE TO SUFFER THAT KIND OF A DROP WAS SUFFER THAT KIND OF A DROP WAS BETO O’ROURKE. BETO O’ROURKE. HARRIS’ NUMBER RISE DOUBLE HARRIS’ NUMBER RISE DOUBLE DIGITS AND WARREN’S NUMBERS RISE DIGITS AND WARREN’S NUMBERS RISE DOUBLE DIGITS AND JOE BIDEN DROP DOUBLE DIGITS AND JOE BIDEN DROP FROM 70% OF THE DEMOCRATS FROM 70% OF THE DEMOCRATS THINKING HE CAN BEAT TRUMP THINKING HE CAN BEAT TRUMP BEFORE THAT DEBATE TO 50% BEFORE THAT DEBATE TO 50% AFTERWARD. AFTERWARD. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE DEBATE ON THE STAGE WITH OF THE DEBATE ON THE STAGE WITH KAMALA HARRIS BUT I THINK THE KAMALA HARRIS BUT I THINK THE STAGE CRAFT HELPED KAMALA STAGE CRAFT HELPED KAMALA HARRIS. HARRIS. I THINK IT WAS IN THAT MOMENT — I THINK IT WAS IN THAT MOMENT — SEE IF IT LINGERS BUT IT WAS SEE IF IT LINGERS BUT IT WAS DEVASTATING TO JOE BIDEN BECAUSE DEVASTATING TO JOE BIDEN BECAUSE IT CUT INTO THE CENTRAL ARGUMENT IT CUT INTO THE CENTRAL ARGUMENT OF HIS CAMPAIGN, PUT ME ON THE OF HIS CAMPAIGN, PUT ME ON THE STAGE WITH DONALD TRUMP AND I STAGE WITH DONALD TRUMP AND I CAN’T LOSE. CAN’T LOSE.>>THERE WILL BE ANOTHER>>THERE WILL BE ANOTHER QUINNIPIAC POLL LATER ON TODAY QUINNIPIAC POLL LATER ON TODAY SO WE’LL SEE IF THEY SUPPORT SO WE’LL SEE IF THEY SUPPORT EACH OTHER OR IF THIS IS AN EACH OTHER OR IF THIS IS AN OUTLIER FROM CNN. OUTLIER FROM CNN. BUT IT REFLECTS A LOT OF WHAT BUT IT REFLECTS A LOT OF WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT. PEOPLE THOUGHT. SENATOR WARREN HAD A GOOD NIGHT. SENATOR WARREN HAD A GOOD NIGHT. SHE’S UP EIGHT POINTS AND THEN SHE’S UP EIGHT POINTS AND THEN KAMALA HARRIS WAS THE STAR. KAMALA HARRIS WAS THE STAR. SHE’S UP NINE POINTS BUT EVEN SO SHE’S UP NINE POINTS BUT EVEN SO A CLOSING OF THE GAP BY 19 A CLOSING OF THE GAP BY 19 POINTS WHEN YOU PUT TOGETHER POINTS WHEN YOU PUT TOGETHER BIDEN FALLING TEN IN THIS POLL. BIDEN FALLING TEN IN THIS POLL. KAMALA HARRIS COMING UP NINE. KAMALA HARRIS COMING UP NINE. THAT IS STRIKING RIGHT OUT OF THAT IS STRIKING RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE. THE GATE.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. THAT’S STUNNING. THAT’S STUNNING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LET’S DO THE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LET’S DO THE ONLY ONE POLL CAVEAT AND SEE ONLY ONE POLL CAVEAT AND SEE ABOUT THE “Q” POLL LATER ON ABOUT THE “Q” POLL LATER ON TODAY. TODAY. BUT I THINK IT REFLECTED MORE BUT I THINK IT REFLECTED MORE THAN JUST THE ONE MOMENT. THAN JUST THE ONE MOMENT. I THINK IT REFLECTED QUESTIONS I THINK IT REFLECTED QUESTIONS ABOUT JOE BIDEN’S OVERALL ABOUT JOE BIDEN’S OVERALL PERFORMANCE IN THAT DEBATE. PERFORMANCE IN THAT DEBATE. NOW, THIS IS SO EARLY AND NOW, THIS IS SO EARLY AND THERE’S NO REASON HE CAN’T THERE’S NO REASON HE CAN’T BOUNCE BACK. BOUNCE BACK. YOU RECALL IN 2012 PRESIDENT YOU RECALL IN 2012 PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD A DISASTROUS, AWFUL OBAMA HAD A DISASTROUS, AWFUL FIRST DEBATE AGAINST MITT ROMNEY FIRST DEBATE AGAINST MITT ROMNEY AND THEN CAME BACK LIKE GANG AND THEN CAME BACK LIKE GANG BUSTERS AND WON THE ELECTION AND BUSTERS AND WON THE ELECTION AND THE OTHER DEBATES SO IT AIN’T THE OTHER DEBATES SO IT AIN’T OVER TILL IT’S OVER. OVER TILL IT’S OVER. BUT BIDEN WAS NOT THAT SHARP IN BUT BIDEN WAS NOT THAT SHARP IN THAT DEBATE. THAT DEBATE. AND HE STRUCK PEOPLE AS OLD. AND HE STRUCK PEOPLE AS OLD. AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, YOU SAW THE THOSE NUMBERS, YOU SAW THE TWO — THE 76-YEAR-OLD CANDIDATE TWO — THE 76-YEAR-OLD CANDIDATE AND THE 77-YEAR-OLD CANDIDATE AND THE 77-YEAR-OLD CANDIDATE BOTH FALL. BOTH FALL. AND YOU SAW HARRIS AND WARREN AND YOU SAW HARRIS AND WARREN RISE AND I THINK IT REFLECTS RISE AND I THINK IT REFLECTS JUST MORE THAN THE ONE, YOU JUST MORE THAN THE ONE, YOU KNOW, CLASH BETWEEN BIDEN AND KNOW, CLASH BETWEEN BIDEN AND HARRIS. HARRIS. I THINK IT WAS AN OVERALL I THINK IT WAS AN OVERALL PERFORMANCE ISSUE. PERFORMANCE ISSUE.>>SO NO, JOE BIDEN WAS NEVER>>SO NO, JOE BIDEN WAS NEVER GOING TO CONTINUE TO LEAD BY THE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LEAD BY THE MARGINS HE WAS LEADING ON. MARGINS HE WAS LEADING ON. WE HADN’T SEEN ANYONE ON STAGE WE HADN’T SEEN ANYONE ON STAGE TOGETHER YET. TOGETHER YET. HE WAS HOLDING A LIMITED NUMBER HE WAS HOLDING A LIMITED NUMBER OF EVENTS. OF EVENTS. WE HADN’T — AT LEAST THE WE HADN’T — AT LEAST THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HADN’T GOTTEN A AMERICAN PUBLIC HADN’T GOTTEN A GREAT LOOK AT JOE BIDEN. GREAT LOOK AT JOE BIDEN. THEY TOOK A LOOK AT HIM ON STAGE THEY TOOK A LOOK AT HIM ON STAGE LAST WEEK AND AGAIN IN THIS LAST WEEK AND AGAIN IN THIS POLL — SEE IF THE OTHER POLLING POLL — SEE IF THE OTHER POLLING RUNS PARALLEL WITH IT, THEY RUNS PARALLEL WITH IT, THEY DIDN’T LIKE WHAT THEY SAW. DIDN’T LIKE WHAT THEY SAW. FOR THE MOST PART. FOR THE MOST PART.>>WELL, I DIDN’T LIKE WHAT I>>WELL, I DIDN’T LIKE WHAT I SAW. SAW. I MEAN N THE MOMENT AS STAGE I MEAN N THE MOMENT AS STAGE CRAFT AS STEVE WAS SAYING, IT CRAFT AS STEVE WAS SAYING, IT WAS INSUFFICIENT. WAS INSUFFICIENT. YOU HAD A VERY AFFECTING, YOU HAD A VERY AFFECTING, EMOTIONAL, GENUINE, HONEST EMOTIONAL, GENUINE, HONEST APPEAL FROM SENATOR HARRIS AND APPEAL FROM SENATOR HARRIS AND BIDEN RESPONDED WITH FACTS AND BIDEN RESPONDED WITH FACTS AND RECORDS AND MY BACKGROUND IN RECORDS AND MY BACKGROUND IN CIVIL RIGHTS. CIVIL RIGHTS. IT WAS JUST DISPROPORTIONATE. IT WAS JUST DISPROPORTIONATE. IT WASN’T AS AFFECTING AS IT WASN’T AS AFFECTING AS SENATOR HARRIS’ ATTACK. SENATOR HARRIS’ ATTACK. HOWEVER, IN THE DAYS THAT HOWEVER, IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOW, I AM SKEPTICAL AS TO THE FOLLOW, I AM SKEPTICAL AS TO THE NATURE OF WHETHER THIS IS GOING NATURE OF WHETHER THIS IS GOING TO TRANSLATE INTO SUSTAINED TO TRANSLATE INTO SUSTAINED SUPPORT BECAUSE SHE’S SUPPORT BECAUSE SHE’S ESSENTIALLY PAINTING HERSELF ESSENTIALLY PAINTING HERSELF INTO A CORNER THAT’S GOING TO INTO A CORNER THAT’S GOING TO REALLY PUT THE ELECTABILITY REALLY PUT THE ELECTABILITY QUESTION BACK ON THE TABLE. QUESTION BACK ON THE TABLE. IN THAT DEBATE, SHE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT DEBATE, SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW SHE WAS GOING TO AGAIN BACK HOW SHE WAS GOING TO AGAIN BACK TRACK FROM HER PREVIOUS BACK TRACK FROM HER PREVIOUS BACK TRACK ABOUT ELIMINATING HEALTH TRACK ABOUT ELIMINATING HEALTH INSURANCE, PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE, PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE AS PART OF THE INSURANCE AS PART OF THE MEDICARE FOR ALL DEAL WHICH IS A MEDICARE FOR ALL DEAL WHICH IS A MINORITY PROPOSITION, SIMILARLY MINORITY PROPOSITION, SIMILARLY SHE’S EMBRACED FORCED BUSING. SHE’S EMBRACED FORCED BUSING. SHE SAID I’M GOING TO SUPPORT A SHE SAID I’M GOING TO SUPPORT A PROGRAM TO BRING BACK FORCED PROGRAM TO BRING BACK FORCED BUSING. BUSING. THIS IS A DEAD POLITICAL ISSUE. THIS IS A DEAD POLITICAL ISSUE. NOT POPULAR, NOT EFFECTIVE AND NOT POPULAR, NOT EFFECTIVE AND FAILED ON ITS OWN MERITS. FAILED ON ITS OWN MERITS. WHEN PEOPLE BEGIN TO DIVE INTO WHEN PEOPLE BEGIN TO DIVE INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE AFFECTING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE AFFECTING EMOTIONAL MOMENT I’M NOT SURE IF EMOTIONAL MOMENT I’M NOT SURE IF IT DOESN’T REBOUND TO BIDEN’S IT DOESN’T REBOUND TO BIDEN’S MOMENT. MOMENT.>>AND RESPONDENTS WERE ASKED TO>>AND RESPONDENTS WERE ASKED TO ANSWER THE POLL, WHO DO YOU ANSWER THE POLL, WHO DO YOU THINK HAS THE BIGGEST CHANCE TO THINK HAS THE BIGGEST CHANCE TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP, JOE BIDEN AT BEAT DONALD TRUMP, JOE BIDEN AT 43% AND THEN DOWN TO 13% FOR THE 43% AND THEN DOWN TO 13% FOR THE NEXT BEST ANSWER THERE. NEXT BEST ANSWER THERE. MAYBE THEY DIDN’T LIKE WHAT THEY MAYBE THEY DIDN’T LIKE WHAT THEY SAW, BUT THEY BELIEVE IN THEIR SAW, BUT THEY BELIEVE IN THEIR HEARTS THAT THEY BELIEVE HE CAN HEARTS THAT THEY BELIEVE HE CAN BEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP. BEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP.>>INITIALLY, THIS RACE WAS>>INITIALLY, THIS RACE WAS REALLY JOE BIDEN AND EVERYBODY REALLY JOE BIDEN AND EVERYBODY ELSE. ELSE. THAT WILL ALL DEPEND ON HIS THAT WILL ALL DEPEND ON HIS DEBATE PERFORMANCES. DEBATE PERFORMANCES. RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE SO MANY RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE SO MANY DEMOCRATIC VOTERS REALLY DRIVEN DEMOCRATIC VOTERS REALLY DRIVEN ALMOST BY A PRIMAL FEAR THAT THE ALMOST BY A PRIMAL FEAR THAT THE ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN THEM ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN THEM AND A SECOND TRUMP PRESIDENCY IS AND A SECOND TRUMP PRESIDENCY IS JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN. WHY? WHY? BECAUSE HE’S THE ONLY ONE WHO BECAUSE HE’S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN WIN IN THE STATES LIKE CAN WIN IN THE STATES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA. PENNSYLVANIA. HE’S JOE FROM SCRANTON. HE’S JOE FROM SCRANTON. WHAT YOU SAW IN THE FIRST DEBATE WHAT YOU SAW IN THE FIRST DEBATE IS A PIERCING OF THE NOTION, IS A PIERCING OF THE NOTION, BECAUSE KAMALA HARRIS PUT BECAUSE KAMALA HARRIS PUT HERSELF FORWARD AS SOMEONE WHO HERSELF FORWARD AS SOMEONE WHO COULD STAND ON THAT DEBATE STAGE COULD STAND ON THAT DEBATE STAGE AND DISASSEMBLE JOE BIDEN. AND DISASSEMBLE JOE BIDEN. IF SHE COULD DO IT TO JOE BIDEN IF SHE COULD DO IT TO JOE BIDEN MAYBE SHE COULD DO IT TO TRUMP. MAYBE SHE COULD DO IT TO TRUMP. BUT IT’S ONLY ONE DEBATE. BUT IT’S ONLY ONE DEBATE. AND TO NOAH’S POINT AT SOME AND TO NOAH’S POINT AT SOME POINT THIS IS GOING TO ALSO POINT THIS IS GOING TO ALSO BECOME ABOUT THE ISSUES AND A BECOME ABOUT THE ISSUES AND A NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES, YOU NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS ARE STARTING KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS ARE STARTING TO PUT THEMSELVES INTO TO PUT THEMSELVES INTO CATEGORIES, INTO BUCKETS WHERE CATEGORIES, INTO BUCKETS WHERE THE POLLING TELLS US THESE THE POLLING TELLS US THESE THINGS ARE NOT BROADLY POPULAR THINGS ARE NOT BROADLY POPULAR WITH THE BROADER ELECTORATE. WITH THE BROADER ELECTORATE. SUCH AS PROVIDING HEALTH SUCH AS PROVIDING HEALTH INSURANCE FOR UNDOCUMENTED INSURANCE FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. IMMIGRANTS. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A GOOD INITIAL PERFORMANCE WAS A GOOD INITIAL PERFORMANCE AND LIKE THE BIDEN PEOPLE SAY, AND LIKE THE BIDEN PEOPLE SAY, THEY WERE ALWAYS EXPECTING THEY WERE ALWAYS EXPECTING THINGS TO TIGHTEN. THINGS TO TIGHTEN. AND THIS IS DEFINITELY ALL GOING AND THIS IS DEFINITELY ALL GOING TO COME DOWN TO WHETHER HE SEES TO COME DOWN TO WHETHER HE SEES A REPEAT PERFORMANCE BECAUSE A REPEAT PERFORMANCE BECAUSE NEXT TIME IS NOT GOING TO JUST NEXT TIME IS NOT GOING TO JUST BE MOST LIKELY KAMALA HARRIS ON BE MOST LIKELY KAMALA HARRIS ON THE STAGE, IT WILL BE ELIZABETH THE STAGE, IT WILL BE ELIZABETH WARREN AND BY GOLLY, SHE WAS WARREN AND BY GOLLY, SHE WAS DEFINITELY WATCHING WHAT KAMALA DEFINITELY WATCHING WHAT KAMALA HARRIS DID AND IMAGINE WHAT HARRIS DID AND IMAGINE WHAT SHE’S GOING TO TRY TO DO IN SHE’S GOING TO TRY TO DO IN TERMS OF DRAWING CONTRASTS FOR TERMS OF DRAWING CONTRASTS FOR INSTANCE ON BIDEN’S RECORD ON INSTANCE ON BIDEN’S RECORD ON BANKRUPTCY REFORM. BANKRUPTCY REFORM. ON BIDEN’S RECORD ON VOTING FOR ON BIDEN’S RECORD ON VOTING FOR THE IRAQ WAR. THE IRAQ WAR. SO HE BETTER COME NEXT TIME SO HE BETTER COME NEXT TIME BETTER PREPARED. BETTER PREPARED.>>STEVE, TWO PARTER FOR YOU>>STEVE, TWO PARTER FOR YOU NUMBER ONE, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN NUMBER ONE, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THE CNN POLL, NUMBER TWO, GIVEN THE CNN POLL, NUMBER TWO, GIVEN THE CIRCLES YOU RUN IN, WHAT THE CIRCLES YOU RUN IN, WHAT DOES THIS DO TO DEMOCRATIC DOES THIS DO TO DEMOCRATIC DONORS WHO ARE WATCHING THIS DONORS WHO ARE WATCHING THIS RACE? RACE?>>WELL, FIRST, WITH RESPECT TO>>WELL, FIRST, WITH RESPECT TO THAT POLL I WOULD JUST GO BACK THAT POLL I WOULD JUST GO BACK TO WHAT NOAH SAID, AND HE USED TO WHAT NOAH SAID, AND HE USED THE WORD IT’S A MOMENT THREE THE WORD IT’S A MOMENT THREE TIMES, IT IS A MOMENT, IT’S A TIMES, IT IS A MOMENT, IT’S A SNAPSHOT, IT’S REFLECTIVE OF SNAPSHOT, IT’S REFLECTIVE OF MORE THAN ONE DEBATE, BUT NOT A MORE THAN ONE DEBATE, BUT NOT A LOT MORE THAN ONE DEBATE. LOT MORE THAN ONE DEBATE. WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE LIFE TAKES WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE LIFE TAKES US. US. I WANT TO COME BACK AND SHOCK I WANT TO COME BACK AND SHOCK THE AUDIENCE AND BE IN HEATED THE AUDIENCE AND BE IN HEATED AGREEMENT WITH NOAH ROTHMAN AGREEMENT WITH NOAH ROTHMAN BECAUSE BIDEN IS THE BECAUSE BIDEN IS THE FRONT-RUNNER, SO NATURALLY FRONT-RUNNER, SO NATURALLY PEOPLE WILL TRY TO TAKE HIM PEOPLE WILL TRY TO TAKE HIM DOWN. DOWN. I THINK HARRIS DID EXPOSE HER I THINK HARRIS DID EXPOSE HER OWN VULNERABILITIES ON THINGS OWN VULNERABILITIES ON THINGS LIKE MEDICARE FOR ALL WHERE LIKE MEDICARE FOR ALL WHERE SHE’S HAD A MULTIPLE POSITIONS SHE’S HAD A MULTIPLE POSITIONS BACK AND FORTH AND IT’S NOT BACK AND FORTH AND IT’S NOT REALLY CLEAR WHERE SHE IS REALLY CLEAR WHERE SHE IS EXACTLY ON THAT. EXACTLY ON THAT. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO CONFRONT THE PROBLEM OF THESE TO CONFRONT THE PROBLEM OF THESE DEBATES SO FAR. DEBATES SO FAR. THEY HAVE MOVED THE PARTY TO THE THEY HAVE MOVED THE PARTY TO THE LEFT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE LEFT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE ISSUES LIKE HEALTH CARE FOR ISSUES LIKE HEALTH CARE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND I THINK ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND I THINK THAT’S A REAL PROBLEM. THAT’S A REAL PROBLEM. IN TERMS OF THE FUND-RAISING AND IN TERMS OF THE FUND-RAISING AND HOW PEOPLE REACT TO IT, I THINK HOW PEOPLE REACT TO IT, I THINK YOU HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS UNFOLDS YOU HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS UNFOLDS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. OBVIOUSLY, JUNE 30th WAS THE END OBVIOUSLY, JUNE 30th WAS THE END OF A QUARTER. OF A QUARTER. WE’LL GET SOME NUMBERS JULY WE’LL GET SOME NUMBERS JULY 15th. 15th. THEN IT’S GOING TO BE A WHILE THEN IT’S GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE WE GET MORE NUMBERS. BEFORE WE GET MORE NUMBERS. I DON’T THINK BIDEN DEALT I DON’T THINK BIDEN DEALT HIMSELF A FATAL BLOW IN THIS HIMSELF A FATAL BLOW IN THIS DEBATE. DEBATE. AS GENE POINTED OUT, BARACK AS GENE POINTED OUT, BARACK OBAMA HAD A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE OBAMA HAD A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE FIRST DEBATE IN 2012. FIRST DEBATE IN 2012. AND WE HAVE TO SEE HOW IT AND WE HAVE TO SEE HOW IT UNFOLDS FROM HERE. UNFOLDS FROM HERE.>>STEVE, I THINK JOE BIDEN>>STEVE, I THINK JOE BIDEN PROBABLY GOT A WAKE-UP CALL LAST PROBABLY GOT A WAKE-UP CALL LAST WEEK IN MIAMI, REALIZING HE HAD WEEK IN MIAMI, REALIZING HE HAD TO BE READY IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO BE READY IN A DIFFERENT WAY PERHAPS THAN HE THOUGHT HE HAD PERHAPS THAN HE THOUGHT HE HAD TO BE READY TO COMPETE IN THIS TO BE READY TO COMPETE IN THIS FIELD. FIELD. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS FROM WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS FROM HERE, WHO WOULD YOU BET ON RIGHT HERE, WHO WOULD YOU BET ON RIGHT NOW IF YOU’RE LOOKING AT THE NOW IF YOU’RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS? NUMBERS?>>YEAH, I MEAN THIS IS THE>>YEAH, I MEAN THIS IS THE INTERESTING THING. INTERESTING THING. I THINK WE HAVE TO SEPARATE TWO I THINK WE HAVE TO SEPARATE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE. ON HERE. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THE ISSUES WILL AFFECT HARRIS’ LONG ISSUES WILL AFFECT HARRIS’ LONG TERM PROSPECTS AND I THINK IT’S TERM PROSPECTS AND I THINK IT’S DIFFICULT TO MEASURE THE DIFFICULT TO MEASURE THE POLLING, IS JOE BIDEN UP TO POLLING, IS JOE BIDEN UP TO THIS? THIS? JOE BIDEN WOULD BE THE FIRST JOE BIDEN WOULD BE THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO CROSS 80 YEARS OLD PRESIDENT TO CROSS 80 YEARS OLD IN OFFICE IF ELECTED. IN OFFICE IF ELECTED. HE’S 76 YEARS OLD RIGHT NOW, HE’S 76 YEARS OLD RIGHT NOW, TURNS 77 AT THE END OF THE YEAR TURNS 77 AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND I THINK DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AND I THINK DEMOCRATIC VOTERS ARES ARE LOOKING AT IT. ARES ARE LOOKING AT IT. IT’S TRUE BARACK OBAMA HAD A BAD IT’S TRUE BARACK OBAMA HAD A BAD DEBATE IN 2012 AND BOUNCED BACK. DEBATE IN 2012 AND BOUNCED BACK. GEORGE W. BUSH HAD A BAD DEBATE GEORGE W. BUSH HAD A BAD DEBATE IN 2004 AND BOUNCED BACK. IN 2004 AND BOUNCED BACK. RONALD REAGAN WHO HAD BEEN THE RONALD REAGAN WHO HAD BEEN THE OLDEST PRESIDENT HAD A TERRIBLE OLDEST PRESIDENT HAD A TERRIBLE FIRST DEBATE AND CAME TO THAT FIRST DEBATE AND CAME TO THAT SECOND DEBATE AGAINST MONDALE IN SECOND DEBATE AGAINST MONDALE IN ’84 WITH THE LINE, I WON’T USE ’84 WITH THE LINE, I WON’T USE ANY OPPONENT’S YOUTH AND ANY OPPONENT’S YOUTH AND INEXPERIENCE AGAINST HIM. INEXPERIENCE AGAINST HIM. HE BOUNCED BACK, BUT THE CONCERN HE BOUNCED BACK, BUT THE CONCERN WAS THERE. WAS THERE. THE QUESTION WITH BIDEN WAS IS THE QUESTION WITH BIDEN WAS IS THIS MORE THAN A BAD NIGHT THIS MORE THAN A BAD NIGHT BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WATCHING JOE BIDEN I THINK FOLKS WATCHING JOE BIDEN I THINK FOLKS WATCHING THE SPEECHES ON THE AIR WATCHING THE SPEECHES ON THE AIR HAVE TAKEN NOTE THAT THE JOE HAVE TAKEN NOTE THAT THE JOE BIDEN THEY HAVE SEEN IN BIDEN THEY HAVE SEEN IN SPEECHES, THE JOE BIDEN THEY SPEECHES, THE JOE BIDEN THEY HAVE SEEN IN INTERVIEWS AND THE HAVE SEEN IN INTERVIEWS AND THE JOE BIDEN THEY SAW IN THAT JOE BIDEN THEY SAW IN THAT DEBATE STAGE LAST WEEK IS NOT DEBATE STAGE LAST WEEK IS NOT THE SAME JOE BIDEN PERFORMANCE THE SAME JOE BIDEN PERFORMANCE WISE THAT THEY REMEMBER FROM WISE THAT THEY REMEMBER FROM THAT DEBATE AGAINST PAUL RYAN IN THAT DEBATE AGAINST PAUL RYAN IN 2012. 2012. THAT THEY REMEMBER FROM ALL — THAT THEY REMEMBER FROM ALL — YOU KNOW, TWO DOZEN OF THE YOU KNOW, TWO DOZEN OF THE PRIMARY DEBATES IN 2007 AND 2008 PRIMARY DEBATES IN 2007 AND 2008 WHEN HE WAS SUCH A STRONG WHEN HE WAS SUCH A STRONG PERFORMER THAT HE DEBATED HIS PERFORMER THAT HE DEBATED HIS WAY ON TO THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET WAY ON TO THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET IN 2008. IN 2008. SO IF JOE BIDEN — IF THIS IS SO IF JOE BIDEN — IF THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL, WHAT YOU SAW THE NEW NORMAL, WHAT YOU SAW LAST WEEK, THEN WE’RE NOT LAST WEEK, THEN WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA JUST TALKING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA JUST GETTING A WAKE-UP CALL OR GEORGE GETTING A WAKE-UP CALL OR GEORGE W. BUSH GETTING A WAKE-UP CALL. W. BUSH GETTING A WAKE-UP CALL. YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A PERFORMANCE THAT’S GOING TO BE PERFORMANCE THAT’S GOING TO BE REPEATED AND IS GOING TO REPEATED AND IS GOING TO REINFORCE THESE CONCERNS THAT I REINFORCE THESE CONCERNS THAT I THINK DEMOCRATIC VOTERS HAVE. THINK DEMOCRATIC VOTERS HAVE.>>DEMOCRATS WILL WAIT TO SEE –>>DEMOCRATS WILL WAIT TO SEE — WAS THAT JUST RUST OR IS THIS A WAS THAT JUST RUST OR IS THIS A PATTERN, IS THAT — PATTERN, IS THAT –>>SEE THE NEXT DEBATE.>>SEE THE NEXT DEBATE. YEAH. YEAH.>>I WANT TO COME BACK TO>>I WANT TO COME BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID ABOUT SOME OF SOMETHING YOU SAID ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES IN THE PUSH TO THE THE ISSUES IN THE PUSH TO THE LEFT IN THE PARTY. LEFT IN THE PARTY. THIS SAME CNN POLL SHOWS JUST THIS SAME CNN POLL SHOWS JUST 21% OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH THE 21% OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF REPLACING PRIVATE HEALTH IDEA OF REPLACING PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE WITH A NATIONAL INSURANCE WITH A NATIONAL PROGRAM. PROGRAM. BERNIE SANDERS RAISED HIS HAND, BERNIE SANDERS RAISED HIS HAND, KAMALA HARRIS RAISED HER HAND. KAMALA HARRIS RAISED HER HAND. SHE SAID SHE MISHEARD THE SHE SAID SHE MISHEARD THE QUESTION AND THERE WOULD BE THE QUESTION AND THERE WOULD BE THE OPTION FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE FOR OPTION FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL COVERAGE. SUPPLEMENTAL COVERAGE. SHE’S BEEN KIND OF BACK AND SHE’S BEEN KIND OF BACK AND FORTH ON THE QUESTION AND ALSO FORTH ON THE QUESTION AND ALSO PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IS UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IS UNPOPULAR IN THIS CNN POLL. UNPOPULAR IN THIS CNN POLL. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE DRIVE WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE DRIVE LEFT IN THESE DEBATES? LEFT IN THESE DEBATES?>>WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH>>WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH FOCUS WE DEVOTE TO THEM AND IT’S FOCUS WE DEVOTE TO THEM AND IT’S IMPORTANT. IMPORTANT. SENATOR HARRIS’ EXPLANATION IS SENATOR HARRIS’ EXPLANATION IS UNCOMPELLING. UNCOMPELLING. SHE WAS ON A CNN TOWN HALL WITH SHE WAS ON A CNN TOWN HALL WITH JAKE TAPPER AND SHE WAS FLIPPANT JAKE TAPPER AND SHE WAS FLIPPANT THAT THE AMERICANS ON THE THAT THE AMERICANS ON THE EMPLOYER SPONSORED HEALTH CARE, EMPLOYER SPONSORED HEALTH CARE, AND THEN THE FLOOR CAVED OUT AND THEN THE FLOOR CAVED OUT FROM UNDER DEMOCRATS IN THE FROM UNDER DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE. SENATE. SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT’S A SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT’S A LITTLE TOO FAR FOR ME. LITTLE TOO FAR FOR ME. MANY OF THEM EVEN COSPONSORS MANY OF THEM EVEN COSPONSORS BERNIE SANDERS’ BILL, EVEN CORY BERNIE SANDERS’ BILL, EVEN CORY BOOKER, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER BOOKER, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER OTHER OPTIONS AND NOW KAMALA OTHER OPTIONS AND NOW KAMALA HARRIS BACK TRACKED THE BACK HARRIS BACK TRACKED THE BACK TRACK AND EVERYONE ON THE STAGE TRACK AND EVERYONE ON THE STAGE ENDORSED THE NOTION YOU SHOULD ENDORSED THE NOTION YOU SHOULD PROVIDE STATE SPONSORED HEALTH PROVIDE STATE SPONSORED HEALTH INSURANCE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS INSURANCE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT’S MINORITY PROPOSITION. THAT’S MINORITY PROPOSITION. SIMILARLY, KAMALA HARRIS IS SIMILARLY, KAMALA HARRIS IS BASKING IN THE BUSING MOMENT AND BASKING IN THE BUSING MOMENT AND SHE HAS SAID, LISTEN, SCHOOLS SHE HAS SAID, LISTEN, SCHOOLS ARE MORE SEGREGATED THAN ARE MORE SEGREGATED THAN NORTHERN IN THE 1970s AND 1980s. NORTHERN IN THE 1970s AND 1980s. WE LOOK AT THE LEGACY OF FORCED WE LOOK AT THE LEGACY OF FORCED BUSING AND I REALLY FOR HER SHE BUSING AND I REALLY FOR HER SHE SHOULD HOPE WE DO NOT DO THAT. SHOULD HOPE WE DO NOT DO THAT. IF WE WERE TO REALLY CRITICALLY IF WE WERE TO REALLY CRITICALLY EXAMINE THAT LEGACY WE WOULD EXAMINE THAT LEGACY WE WOULD FIND THAT IT EXASPERATED RACIAL FIND THAT IT EXASPERATED RACIAL TENSIONS AND EXASPERATED TENSIONS AND EXASPERATED SELF-SORTING AMONG THE RACES AND SELF-SORTING AMONG THE RACES AND RESULTED IN BAD OUTCOMES FOR RESULTED IN BAD OUTCOMES FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS. AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS. IT WAS NOT A GREAT PROGRAM AND IT WAS NOT A GREAT PROGRAM AND IT’S — DOING AWAY WITH THAT WAS IT’S — DOING AWAY WITH THAT WAS INEVITABLE. INEVITABLE. IT’S A VERDICT OF HISTORY THAT I IT’S A VERDICT OF HISTORY THAT I DON’T THINK IS GOING TO BE DON’T THINK IS GOING TO BE REVERSED AND SHE DOESN’T WANT US REVERSED AND SHE DOESN’T WANT US TO FOCUS TOO DEEPLY ON THAT. TO FOCUS TOO DEEPLY ON THAT.>>LOOK, THE QUESTION ABOUT>>LOOK, THE QUESTION ABOUT PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO ILLEGAL PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WAS A BIT OF A GOTCHA IMMIGRANTS WAS A BIT OF A GOTCHA QUESTION. QUESTION. IT WAS LIKE A RAISE YOUR HAND IT WAS LIKE A RAISE YOUR HAND KIND OF QUESTION AND THE KIND OF QUESTION AND THE ALTERNATIVE IS NOT RAISE YOUR ALTERNATIVE IS NOT RAISE YOUR HAND AND SUGGEST YOU WANTED THE HAND AND SUGGEST YOU WANTED THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO DIE IN THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO DIE IN THE STREETS. STREETS. I DON’T THINK ANYBODY WANTS I DON’T THINK ANYBODY WANTS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO DIE IN THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO DIE IN THE STREETS. STREETS. AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE AUTOMATIC ACCESS TO THE AUTOMATIC ACCESS TO THE EMERGENCY ROOMS. EMERGENCY ROOMS. WHEREVER YOU ARE, YOU WILL GET WHEREVER YOU ARE, YOU WILL GET TREATED. TREATED. I THINK AMERICANS SUPPORT THAT. I THINK AMERICANS SUPPORT THAT. I DON’T THINK THEY SUPPORT I DON’T THINK THEY SUPPORT GIVING MEDICARE FOR ALL TO GIVING MEDICARE FOR ALL TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AROUND I ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AROUND I THINK — AND I THINK THAT WILL THINK — AND I THINK THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BECOME CLARIFIED IN HOPEFULLY BECOME CLARIFIED IN THE COURSE OF THE CAMPAIGN. THE COURSE OF THE CAMPAIGN. YES, I AGREE WITH YOU. YES, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE DEBATES DID MOVE THE I THINK THE DEBATES DID MOVE THE DISCUSSION A BIT TO THE LEFT AND DISCUSSION A BIT TO THE LEFT AND I THINK IT NOW NEEDS TO COME I THINK IT NOW NEEDS TO COME BACK. BACK. I THINK SENATOR HARRIS IS VERY I THINK SENATOR HARRIS IS VERY VULNERABLE ON THIS MEDICARE FOR VULNERABLE ON THIS MEDICARE FOR ALL ISSUE. ALL ISSUE. BUT I THINK SHE CAN WALK IT BACK BUT I THINK SHE CAN WALK IT BACK YET AGAIN TO A BETTER PLACE. YET AGAIN TO A BETTER PLACE. SO I THINK THERE’S STILL THE SO I THINK THERE’S STILL THE PROSPECT THAT THE DEMOCRATS WILL PROSPECT THAT THE DEMOCRATS WILL FIND A HAPPY MIDDLE GROUND ON FIND A HAPPY MIDDLE GROUND ON SOME OF THE STUFF. SOME OF THE STUFF.>>SO TO STEVE’S POINT BRIEFLY,>>SO TO STEVE’S POINT BRIEFLY, IF YOU WERE A JOE BIDEN IF YOU WERE A JOE BIDEN SUPPORTER UNDER THE IMPRESSIVE SUPPORTER UNDER THE IMPRESSIVE HE WAS A MASTER RHETT ARUSSIAN HE WAS A MASTER RHETT ARUSSIAN AND COULD DO MORE THAN CONNECT AND COULD DO MORE THAN CONNECT EMOTIONALLY WITH YOU I DON’T EMOTIONALLY WITH YOU I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S THE CORE SUPPORT. KNOW IF THAT’S THE CORE SUPPORT. IF YOU WATCHED HIM FOR THE LAST IF YOU WATCHED HIM FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS HE HAS A HABIT OF EIGHT YEARS HE HAS A HABIT OF PUTTING HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH. PUTTING HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH.>>THAT’S DIFFERENT THAN BEING>>THAT’S DIFFERENT THAN BEING SHARP, PUNCHY, QUICK WITH THE SHARP, PUNCHY, QUICK WITH THE COMEBACK. COMEBACK. REMEMBER THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN SENT REMEMBER THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN SENT HIM OUT THERE AFTER OBAMA’S POOR HIM OUT THERE AFTER OBAMA’S POOR PERFORMANCE DEBATE WITH THE IDEA PERFORMANCE DEBATE WITH THE IDEA OF GOING TOE TO TOE AND ROUGHING OF GOING TOE TO TOE AND ROUGHING UP PAUL RYAN AND PEOPLE ON THE UP PAUL RYAN AND PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT DIDN’T LIKE THE JOE BIDEN RIGHT DIDN’T LIKE THE JOE BIDEN THEY SAW THAT NIGHT. THEY SAW THAT NIGHT. I THINK TAKE AWAY THE ISSUES, I THINK TAKE AWAY THE ISSUES, THAT WAS A SHARPER JOE BIDEN THAT WAS A SHARPER JOE BIDEN THAN YOU SAW. THAN YOU SAW.>>I WAS AT THE FAMOUS EVENT>>I WAS AT THE FAMOUS EVENT WHERE JOE BIDEN TALKED ABOUT THE WHERE JOE BIDEN TALKED ABOUT THE TWO — ABOUT EAST LAND AND TALL TWO — ABOUT EAST LAND AND TALL IMAGE. IMAGE. I THOUGHT HE WAS FINE. I THOUGHT HE WAS FINE. I THOUGHT HE HAD WHAT HE NEEDED I THOUGHT HE HAD WHAT HE NEEDED TO DO AND I THINK THE AUDIENCE TO DO AND I THINK THE AUDIENCE THOUGHT HE WAS FINE. THOUGHT HE WAS FINE. YOU KNOW, HE WAS QUICK. YOU KNOW, HE WAS QUICK. HE WAS ON HIS GAME. HE WAS ON HIS GAME. DIFFERENT THAN A DEBATE. DIFFERENT THAN A DEBATE. I CONCEDE THAT. I CONCEDE THAT. SEE HOW IT UNFOLDS. SEE HOW IT UNFOLDS.>>GENE ROBINSON, PERFORMANCE>>GENE ROBINSON, PERFORMANCE AND THIS NEW POLL, IF YOU’RE A AND THIS NEW POLL, IF YOU’RE A JOE BIDEN SUPPORTER OR IN THE JOE BIDEN SUPPORTER OR IN THE JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, HOW JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU THIS MORNING? CONCERNED ARE YOU THIS MORNING?>>YOU’RE CONCERNED, NOT>>YOU’RE CONCERNED, NOT PANICKED. PANICKED. YOU REALIZE IT’S A SNAPSHOT, YOU REALIZE IT’S A SNAPSHOT, IT’S A MOMENT. IT’S A MOMENT. AND EVERYBODY HAS AN OFF NIGHT. AND EVERYBODY HAS AN OFF NIGHT. SO IF IT’S AN OFF NIGHT THEN SO IF IT’S AN OFF NIGHT THEN THAT’S FINE. THAT’S FINE. WE’LL SEE IT IN THE NEXT DEBATE. WE’LL SEE IT IN THE NEXT DEBATE. THE UPCOMING APPEARANCE ON THE THE UPCOMING APPEARANCE ON THE STUMP WE’LL SEE A SHARPER, MORE STUMP WE’LL SEE A SHARPER, MORE FOCUSED, MORE SORT OF ON TOP OF FOCUSED, MORE SORT OF ON TOP OF IT JOE BIDEN. IT JOE BIDEN. AND ALL WILL BE WELL IN BIDEN AND ALL WILL BE WELL IN BIDEN LAND. LAND. IF WE DON’T SEE THAT, IF HE IF WE DON’T SEE THAT, IF HE CONTINUES TO LOOK THE WAY HE CONTINUES TO LOOK THE WAY HE LOOKED THE OTHER NIGHT, THEN LOOKED THE OTHER NIGHT, THEN YOU’RE GOING TO SEE I THINK SOME YOU’RE GOING TO SEE I THINK SOME SERIOUS CONCERN. SERIOUS CONCERN. YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBERS YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO CHANGE. CONTINUE TO CHANGE. AND WE’LL SEE. AND WE’LL SEE. IT IS INTERESTING THOUGH THAT IT IS INTERESTING THOUGH THAT WHEN YOU ASK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ASK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP, WHO DO YOU WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP, WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE THE THINK IS GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE, THOSE KINDS OF NOMINEE, THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS, THE ANSWER IS STILL QUESTIONS, THE ANSWER IS STILL JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN. AND SO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE AND SO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE PRETTY GOOD PREDICTORS OFTEN OF PRETTY GOOD PREDICTORS OFTEN OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS GOING TO WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN, IS OFTEN AS GOOD AS OR HAPPEN, IS OFTEN AS GOOD AS OR BETTER PREDICTOR THAN WHAT — BETTER PREDICTOR THAN WHAT — YOU KNOW, I INDIVIDUALLY WANT TO YOU KNOW, I INDIVIDUALLY WANT TO HAPPEN. HAPPEN. SO HE’S STILL IN THE LEAD. SO HE’S STILL IN THE LEAD. LET’S FACE IT, HE’S STILL THE LET’S FACE IT, HE’S STILL THE FRONT-RUNNER. FRONT-RUNNER.>>THIS RACE WILL CHANGE A>>THIS RACE WILL CHANGE A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE A SINGLE THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE A SINGLE VOTE IS CAST. VOTE IS CAST.>>>STILL AHEAD ON “MORNING JOE”>>>STILL AHEAD ON “MORNING JOE” MEMBERS OF CONGRESS VISIT THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS VISIT THE SOUTHERN BORDER FOR A FIRSTHAND SOUTHERN BORDER FOR A FIRSTHAND LOOK AT THE CRISIS THERE AS A

100 thoughts on “Joe Biden Drops But Most See Him As Best Bet Against Donald Trump | Morning Joe | MSNBC

  1. Sad old man,peddling yesterdays views, thinks that he can turn back the clock.
    Does very little prep, and thinks that he can wing it.
    End of the day, he's only an ex VP, a compromise candidate at that.

  2. Bernie has 190K YouTube subscribers. Biden has 6.3K. Warren has 5.6K. Kamala Harris has 5K. Bernie has 7.5M Facebook followers. Warren has 3.3M. Biden has 1.4M. Kamala has 1.1M. Still think the polls are accurate? #BernNotice #BernBabyBern #BernieMania #BerninDownTheHouse #BetterWithBernie #Bernami #Bernado #Bernquake #Bernsoon #Bernstorm #Bernieverse #UniversalHealthCare #UniversalEducation #ClimateChange #SocialJustice #EconomicJustice #PeopleOverProfit #OccupyTheWhiteHouse #99Percent #LivingWage #TaxTheRich #PoliticalRevolution #NotForSale #DemocraticSocialism #BerninForChange #CivilRights #HumanSecurity #EnvironmentalSustainability #VoteBlueNoMatterWho

  3. I see Biden as another gaffe, and not appealing as one to win when there are so many others who are prepared to come up against trump.

  4. It should be less about beating Trump and more about replacing him with something better, Biden is NOT better.

  5. These candidates need to keep a racial issues to a minimum, stop talking about Trump (don't even mention his name, everyone knows that he sucks) and start discussing issues that matter deeply to people in swing states.

  6. No MSNBC, the only entities who think Biden can win against Trump are corporate media shills, Centerist old school assbites who kiss the butts of corporations for their money, and misbegotten idiots and imbecilic twinkies like your network. People who live in the real world know that Biden is an old, misogynistic, miserable, rich, Republican butt kissing loser.

  7. Remind every Democrat that by stating if elected president, they would pay for health insurance for illegal immigrants, each and every Democrat running for president has obviously admitted there is way, way, way too much tax revenue and no excuse not to cut taxes for every single American. Share this message again and again.

  8. What is it with these white old 70+ guys that is so attractive as to running the country? In most other developed countries they wouldn't even been allowed to work. In Norway, the country Trump has mentioned several times, he wouldn't been allowed to hold any public office just because he's more than 70 years old.

  9. Biden is unable to speak reliably, and cannot think on his feet, and is defensive about his record. I personally don't much care for his record, but others don't seem to mind. I've voted against him in Dem primaries throughout my life.
    Btw, get off the "too old" thing, it's Biden's personality.

  10. The 'pundits' still completely ignoring Bernie. They talk more about Mayor Pete with 4% than about Bernie. Pathetic!

  11. Joe Biden is not the man for 2020! Instead of supporting the necessary change in the Democratic party, find his spine, and help young talent (like Kamala Harris and others), Biden shows how "old" his views are. It is not the good old boys club anymore, Joe!
    It is the (not so new) GOP takeover with every dirty trick in the book and lack of any decency, busy to move the last bit of power from the many to the few. Look at what the turtle did to the courts! No concern for the country at all.
    While they were busy, Biden hangs on to the old memories and does not understand the danger and that his strength to lead the country into the future, with the GOP of today, has passed.

  12. If there is any goodness in the world, the old experienced guys would step off and endorse Yang and Buttigieg

  13. The 2020 election is over a year away, but already Democrats and Republicans are planning how they'll celebrate Trump's re-election.

  14. Ahh, the soothing shilling of MSDNC for its campaign money masters.
    C'mon guys, you could at least TRY to pretend you're not lip locked to the uber-establishment DNC's testicles.
    Utterly pathetic.

  15. Utter rubbish. Sanders has been the leader since the beginning and the millionaires who do 'news' will have to pay more tax in 2020 or else Trump gets 4 more years which i honestly think this channel would prefer over Sanders. Stop believing these lies and stop voting for the corporate class
    Truth- 1st debate DeBlaiso and Tulse stormed it. 2nd debate only Harris gained but Bernie held and was the overall winner as most know she lies

  16. Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang are the two most intelligent candidates for the democratic party! The other candidates do not stand a chance against Trump! Why is MSNBC wasting time on the other candidates? Look at Yang's policies and ideas for our country. Listen to Tulsi's voice on foreign affairs!

  17. Take away the issues he says and it’s a sharper Joe Biden.. Yeah who cares about the issues and policies? Gtfo

  18. We are going to replace one out of touch white rich man with another and call it a good day the American dream sleep well tonight this is what their told last time Trump could never win he to stupid she have all wrap up as a win MSNBC is still lying nothing is new but the day!

  19. Who believes your poll reports…you fools said Clinton was winning over Trump!!! up until the night he won the election….you lie about poll reports to push the candidates you are getting paid to push off on the viewers!!!! you work for the democratic party and who they want to push…Harris will never get enough black vote to win an election!!!!!!! and no democrat can win with out the majority of the black vote…she cannot get enough of the black vote to win the election no matter how much you push her….black people are off Kamala Harris for her lies about her race….she is a fake black want to be for votes!!!! Blacks are emotional voters and are every tired of people using black culture and past history of pain to get ahead…she is a part of the people who use her skin tint to use black people for votes…she is Indian and Jamaican none of that will ever make her a true African American!!!!! I would have had more respect for her if she owned up to her true cultural heritage and not used the black card for votes….she is not black…JAMAICAN IS NOT AFRICAN AND INDIAN IS NOT AFRICAN…..they are people of color but not AFRICAN AMERICAN!!!!!

  20. lol you guys are so out of touch, for real. no more biden, please. also, why are we not talking about warren?

  21. If Biden, Harris, Klobuchar, the bald guy or that blonde lady that interrupts a bunch are nominated. I will vote TRump. Anyone else and I vote blue

  22. Frankly, I think Harris is a better candidate than Biden. She's younger, smarter, currently serving the country is some capacity, better voting record, less scandals, would fare better among women and people of color…

  23. funny how there already ignoring Bernie, who must have at least 30% of the dems, these polls are false , Biden doesn't stand a chance, he's being shoved in front just like Clinton was and will lose worse than Clinton by far … but after all that's what they want to have happen, "they" being the real power that be, deep state. Contrary to thought, the whole deep state against Trump is false, it's made to look that way.

  24. MSNBC hates progressives, they hate Bernie, the CEO of Comcast (MSNBC's parent company) is Joe's friend, raises funds for him. We know what you are, corporate shills.

  25. Biden, I am sorry to say, is an old man with old ideas. The same is not true of Bernie or Elizabeth Warren. There are plenty of choices in the Democratic party but Joe is not one of them. Stop pushing for him, that is what lost the last election.

  26. Joe will be the first of the big's to drop. His number's will fall after every Debate when he show's to be the lesser candidate in all respects…

  27. MSNBC's reporting will lead to another victory for Trump. Maybe that is what they want. Keep the dollars flowing in

  28. Biden's electability has always been a fabrication. He's run for president and LOST TWICE…

    Bernie or Warren only for 2020.

  29. No most don't see him as best bet. The Democratic National Committee is trying to PUSH Biden on the public. He's not right for the presidency. His ideas are old and out dated and he has too much past history of voting for bad policy that has a legacy of pain for the American people. No. Biden will not be our President. Its time for a WOMAN. Cause the way things have been, its not really working out for us with business as usual. A WOMAN for PRESIDENT!!

  30. I now wish I voted for trump the first time. I’m surly voting for him this time because these democrats will destroy America. Not one person is talking bout our rights. And making our rights first. Instead there are focus on climate change(hoax)😂. And tax raising.🤦‍♂️ make America great again

  31. Why do we have the top 2 in the so-called “Democratic poll” be the most corrupt and establishment candidates? Oh! I know!! Because the Democrats are willing to pull the same mistake they did back in 2016. See if this phrase sounds familiar: “Clinton was the person the American people want.” That worked out great.

  32. #Msnbc #CNN, just go right ahead and start lying early and excuses now..say Russian Bots, say stolen emails, say hacked the election, say lack of voter turnout, say they couldnt capture the black vote, or its twiiter trolls, say whichever lie the out of touch Democrat donors can be fooled and pacified with, but the stark reality is Democrats have been the do nothing party for those who have "GIVEN" them power are now faced with an ultimatum. Even in the debate to shut Marianne off on the only topic that will decide whether millions of even decide to vote will prove fatal to the Dems.

  33. Y'all know that morning joe is Establishment drivel, right? Another propaganda network. They LOVE the status quo.
    I'd sooner trust a bank robber.

  34. Black media isn't feeling Joe. So not sorry. He doesn't have a Black agenda. Its just that simple! Maybe he'll steal the election the way trump did. He's NOT getting my vote.
    #ReparationsNowORNoBlackVoteIn2020

  35. MSNBC is far worse than fox news, they are purposely trying to misconstrue the truth by sending out a false narrative that Biden is the only one who can defeat 45… nope, its Bernie… deep down you guys know it but you ignore it and promote fake biased messages.

  36. Nooo, the people that see him as the best bet are the DNC and the media. The rest of the public are having serious doubt. Nice try though. If he runs, I guarantee Trump will get another term.

  37. MSNBC: Keep numbing and dumbing us down with unending coverage of an early Dem primary, while almost always avoiding reporting on hideous practices by the Defense Department and Homeland Security. Other than the border reporting, you are consistently silent on what the corporate military in the U.S. is doing to the rest of the globe and its own citizens. PS: Stop shilling for Joe Biden. It's overt and utterly unprofessional.

  38. MS in MSNBC stands for Microsoft. Are these Bill Gates's political opinions?

    edit: I just read that Microsoft sold its share in MSNBC back in 2012. Weird that they kept the name…

  39. Joe Biden looked lost, guilty (of precisely what Harris called him on) and gutless ("my times up"). Besides some of us still remember how he treated Anita Hill during those Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. He's washed up.

  40. Nonsense. These polls are skewed. Remember when the polls guaranteed Clinton would win? People were upset enough to try Trump. Now people are still wanting change and looking at Bernie. You'll be surprised again because you don't listen to the people and their struggles.

  41. Thank you for reminding me why I don't ever watch mainstream media, you guys are horrible, defending corporations, smearing progressives 🤢🤢

  42. Gotta love how they never mention Bernie, only smear him, and only ever praise for establishment dems that will maintain the status quo.

  43. MSNBC and CNN are corporations. Of course they will back Biden against Bernie. Bernie is the only candidate who is campaigning to change the rules. Biden admitted it himself – "fundamentally, nothing will change if I am elected President".

  44. I have a couple reasons for this…

    1. Republicans are probably obstructing the polls and boosting Kamala Harris because they know if Kamala wins, she has no chance of winning the presidency.!!

    2. Kamala Harris just got introduced to national voters and they bought into the hype…

    If you saw the actual Democratic Debate and really payed attention Kamala did not do better than Biden.. between Kamala and Harris, The democratic debate wasnt even a democratic debate about real worls issues, Harris clearly showed that her only chance of winning is by attacking Bidens character and its not going to work!! The Democratic party recognizes Kamala Harris is nottt cutt out for the preisdency.. she is a Judge, a persecutor not someone fit enough to deal with foreign policy. She was clearly back and forth on Healtcare..

    Republicans are going to do everything they can to push biden out. Even if it means boosting Kamala.

  45. this is what corporate media says: biden biden biden biden biden biden biden biden biden we get it,,,you dont like progressives but its what the people want and need,,be honest

  46. Hide your children!!!   Creepy Joe is coming to town!!!   The Groper and Chief!!    With a little sniff here…and a little grope there….here a tit…there a tit…give'em a kiss and a sniff…Joe is one very sick individual.  Pedophiles don't make good presidents!

  47. Sleepy Joe admitting there was no russian interference on his watch:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=nZnIUkgXDig

  48. damnrats still talk about polls after crooked hillary's polls showed her 90% over President Trump. Did she win?????

  49. There is no chance against Trump. All of them keep adding to Trump's voters. Anti-american, open borders communists aren't what most Democrats want.

  50. Joe Biden wasn't even prepared for Kamala Harris! How is he going to take on Trump?! He won't apologize when he's wrong and is stubborn. He's not the one to go against Trump!

  51. You can't judge Biden based upon one event!

    There is still a long way to go before the primaries!

    And what we see now is just voters shopping around!

    So all of these polls means nothing at this point!

    It only gives insight for the next few weeks to the next few months!

    Polls fluctuate, like my paycheck!

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